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Downhill Battle: Apple sold about 21 songs per iPod

updated 02:30 pm EDT, Wed April 28, 2004

\'21 songs per iPod\' sold

In an effort to push for a new online music business model, Downhill Battle notes that "As of April 15, Apple had sold roughly 60 million iTunes and 3 million iPods (sources below). That's (VCL) is a proposal for a simple and practical system where you pay a flat fee for "all-you-can-eat" downloads and the money gets divided up to musicians and labels according to popularity."

by MacNN Staff




  1. bitfactory

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Go Away

    Hey Downhill Battle - GO AWAY, you are annoying.

    No one gives a sh*t about your 'everything must be free' mantra.

  1. DeathMan

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Not iTMS != Stolen

    Just because I only bought 4 or 5 songs from the iTunes music store does not mean all 8 gigs of music on my iPod is stolen. 95% of that music ripped directly from CDs that I own, and the rest are legitimate free downloads from artists' websites, eMusic, and That is a highly flawed argument. The idea however is reasonable. Not that the RIAA would ever go for it.

  1. dwishbone

    Joined: Dec 1969


    dumb sh*t

    VCL sounds like the dumbest idea ive ever heard. from the way it sounds artists A could sell more tracks and artists B could actually get more money cause B is techincally "more popular".

  1. ipod21

    Joined: Dec 1969


    no kidding

    With the exception of maybe 10 songs from file sharing (before iTMS), the rest of my 4 gig's of music is from my own CD's and 70 some odd songs from iTMS.

    Their message screams of one thing: TOO CHEAP TO AFFORD MUSIC.

  1. MacnTX

    Joined: Dec 1969



    Most of us rip the majority of the music on our iPods from our own personal CD collection. Of the 600 or so songs on my iPod, a little over 500 of them got there that way. And none of them are from "illegal downloading" just because only a small portion of them were purchased from the iTMS. Get a clue...

  1. jpellino

    Joined: Dec 1969


    fine art...

    ... of the irrelevant conclusion.

    Or at least the irresponsible suggestion.

    This is like looking at my visa statement and my odometer, and concluding that I stole half the gasoline I used in a year.

    My iPod? 2.95 GB, 672 total tracks, 299 iTMS tracks (including 21 albums, 28 Pepsi freebies).

    The only questionable track I have is Bonnie Raitt's Blender Blues. Went from an old bootleg tape to SoundStudio to CDR to iTunes.

    I sleep at night and have a great music selection.

    If the music industry is so horrible for artists, then why does it continue to sign new ones and make everyone lots of money? Jewel isn't sleeping in a car anymore. Steely Dan (never exactly a commercial pop act) are alive and well and distributing their stuff three ways (CD, DVD, iTMS)... No Doubt seems to pay their bills on time.

    These folks are obnoxious and have no real solution to offer. The Creative Commons license is hardly the solution for music. It seems to work OK for print, but this ain't print.

  1. porieux

    Joined: Dec 1969



    > So, when people fill up those iPods, where does all the music come from?

    EVER HEARD OF CDs?????

    Yeeesh, what an idiotic statement!

  1. JLL

    Joined: Dec 1969



    Are iPods only available in the US? I think not!

    Is iTMS only available in the US? I think so!

    Do people own CDs? I think so!

  1. Neo.cmg

    Joined: Dec 1969


    Questionable Data

    Well, of those 3 million iPods sold how many of those were sold in just the U.S.? Half, I would imagine was a good rough order of magnitude estimate. So, double 21 songs to 42 songs, add the fact that most people haven't just gone out and thrown away their previous music collections, and you'll have your answer of where all the music is coming from... Seeing as how no one asides U.S. residents can use the iTMS, I have a hard time seeing their results as accurate.


  1. JeffHarris

    Joined: Dec 1969


    What are they Smokin'?

    Pass the weed dude...

    Downhill Battle? Their logic seems more like they suffer from a degenerative brain disease.

    I guess people who rip tracks from CDs they OWN are really stealing.

    Why would I spend 99 cents for a song that I've already got on a CD? PLUS I can rip it at a higher sampling rate or transfer it with no further compression directly to an iPod?

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