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NAB: RealNetworks\' Glaser takes aim at Jobs, iTunes

updated 07:10 pm EDT, Tue April 20, 2004

Real takes on Jobs, Apple

at NAB: "Glaser didn't disappoint those looking for controversy, showing a giant mockup of Jobs and referring to iTunes closed system as 'The Soviet Model.' In Jobs' world, 'you can go to any store you want, so long as its iTunes,' said Glaser. 'That"s not going to fly in mainstream markets' and will ultimately cause a 'morass of incompatibility.'" Glaser touted its own Rhapsody service with 450,000 subscribers (up 300 percent in one year) and said that the entire industry (as well as all of video entertainment) would be harmed if Apple didn't work with the industry on open standards.




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  1. osxisfun

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    what

    a D*&%

    If see his obese carcass walking down the street....Zap. bang... To the moon alice!

  1. Ganesha

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Um...

    How is the industry going to be harmed if the iTunes model is "not going to fly in mainstream markets."?

  1. SteveMeister

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    FUD

    iTMS is the biggest, most successful online music store, by far. It is the only one to have actually made a profit.

    iPod is the most successful personal digitam music player on the market, by far. It is a household word -- more people know what an iPod is than they do an "MP3 player". When's the last time you saw a TV commercial for a Creative Nomad Zen jukebox?

    There is absolutely no reason for Apple to change matters by licensing FairPlay to other MP3 player manufacturers, or to enable the iPod to play WMA files. Doing the former would dilute the iPod market, doing the latter would harm iTMS.

    So unless other music stores and/or other MP3 players start gaining the market penetration and success that iTMS and iPod have, Apple is *SMART* not to change the status quo.

  1. cebritt

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    You can take the boy...

    ...out of Microsoft but you can't take the Microsoft out of the boy. If you were Jobs, would you deal with a guy who has been bad mouthing you for years and then threatens you. Way to go Rob. Go partner with Bill and leave us alone.

  1. QualleyIV

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Here's the thing...

    Here's the thing, the ONLY thing that is really going to matter when it comes to music stores and the iPod is the selection that is available on the music store. I mean, who cares if you can buy the same song at the same price from 1 store or 10? It doesn't matter. How many people are really going to be like "I really want an iPod, but I hate using the ITMS and I want to be able to use the Wal-mart music store, so I'm not going to get an iPod". However, if there is some variety with the music available on a store, that could be an issue. However, Apple has proven to be THE MOST SUCCESSFUL at gaining access to music titles and putting them up for sale. If that continues (and there is no reason to think it won't, given their market position) then there is really not much to wory about.

    When it comes down to it, I hate to break it to Glaser, but 99% of the music buying public and people who want the iPod aren't that into computers, furthermore, they DON'T KNOW, DON'T WANT TO KNOW, AND COULDN'T CARE LESS about what CODEC audio is encoded in. AAC, WMA, MP3, AIFF, IT DOESN'T make a difference as long as the song is there.

    Jobs gets this, Glaser doesn't. End of story.

  1. Bobby

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Gimme a break!!!

    Someone close to this guy should tell him to GET OVER IT ALREADY!!!!

    Dumb a$$...

  1. Nostromo

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Oy

    "iTMS is the biggest, most successful online music store, by far. It is the only one to have actually made a profit."

    Yeah, and it's ALWAYS going to be NUMBER ONE, right? NOTHING will EVER come along that Joe WalMart will like better than the iTMS and the iPod. Ever. Period.

    "iPod is the most successful personal digitam music player on the market, by far. It is a household word -- more people know what an iPod is than they do an "MP3 player". When's the last time you saw a TV commercial for a Creative Nomad Zen jukebox?"

    And when is the last time you saw an Apple ad? I saw *3* ads today for Dell's MP3 player, and that's on TOP of the other 9 commercials I saw for their S***** comptuers.

    "There is absolutely no reason for Apple to change matters by licensing FairPlay to other MP3 player manufacturers, or to enable the iPod to play WMA files. Doing the former would dilute the iPod market, doing the latter would harm iTMS."

    Replace "FairPlay" with "the new Mac graphical user interface operating system" and "MP3" with "Microsoft" (who wanted to license the Mac OS to adapt to other computers), and you have the main reason that Apple has a paltry 2% marketshare (and shrinking).

    "So unless other music stores and/or other MP3 players start gaining the market penetration and success that iTMS and iPod have, Apple is *SMART* not to change the status quo.""

    Gaining marketshare and overtaking the iPod will take TIME, get it? It won't happen overnight. So just because you don't see another MP3 player catching fire with Joe Sixpack overnight and gaining a ton of media attention does NOT mean that iTMS and the iPod are invulnerable. Get a clue.

    Look, I don't have a crystal ball (like you apparently do) -- maybe Apple will rule the roost with iTMS and the iPod will keep its lead in market (and mind) share.

    But all these morons saying "APPLE WILL ALWAYS RULE THE MP3 PLAYER WITH THE IPOD AND NOTHING WILL EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER COME ALONG THAT OTHER PEOPLE WILL WANT TO BUY YOU HEAR ME NEVER EVER YAAAAAAAHHHHH!" is just plain stupid.

    Please get a clue.

  1. Makosuke

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Smooth, Glasser

    Either Glasser is a total idiot who thinks indimidation and threats work on corporations and corporate egos bigger than your own, or he wishes he was more powerful than he actually is and is willing to run his own business into the ground to satisfy that feeling.

    My logic:
    1) It's obvious Real is in trouble; if they weren't, they wouldnt've gone crawling to Apple, with the added note that MS would be next. Do you go trying to hop on your competitor's bandwagon if yours is running well? No.

    2) The obvious way to get Real out of trouble is to buddy up with somebody bigger; at this point the 800 pound gorilla is Apple, and MS is the only other potential contender, once they get their media stuff in gear.

    3) If you seriously want to partner with Apple, and its CEO (known for being egotistical, opinionated, and not liking to be threatened), which is a more intelligent strategy: Politely and very secretly talk and beg, get on good terms, then announce a big agreement (ala the HP iPod), or ask in a way filled with veiled threats to go with the competition, then leak your begging and veiled threats to the media, blowing any secrecy for a guy who LOVES secrecy?

    You'd have to either WANT the deal to fall through to do the latter, or to think you were so unbelievably awesome that nobody could turn you down (not, clearly, the case).

    5) If your main plan falls through due to a bungled approach, what is the best way to leverage with the backup competitor (MS)? Would it be to leak the fact that you're so desperate that you already went begging to another company first? Yeah, like that's not going to cut your bargaining power in half, especially when it's MICROSOFT you're bargaining with!


    So Glasser's basically blown both chances of getting anything resembling a decent deal, and now he's jumping up and down at a trade show calling Steve names. Mature, Glasser. Real mature.

    Whether Real has business model or not, and whether they're about to get Netscaped squeezed between Apple and MS or not, Glasser is clearly clueless.

  1. Marshallm

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    Pot. Kettle. Black.

    He'd have a point if Rhapsody was open to Macintoshes.

    It isn't. He doesn't.

  1. njfuzzy

    Joined: Dec 1969

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    What a nut.

    What a nut. This stuff is classic.

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