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RealNetworks CEO pushes Apple to open iPod
updated 03:30 pm EST, Tue March 23, 2004
Real CEO pushes Apple
RealNetworks CEO Rob Glaser to additional file formats during a panel discussion Tuesday at PC Forum, according to CNET News.com. Glaser said "that Apple is creating problems for itself by using a file format that forces consumers to buy music from Apple's own iTunes site. Because Apple's iPod music player does not support other proprietary music formats and does not license its own format to rivals, Real's Rhapsody and other song sites are blocked from easily reaching iPod users. 'Apple's (market) share will go down if they continue to do this,' Glaser said. "The only way to presently put songs on an iPod is to (buy) them from iTunes.'[or burn them from a CD]"
boo-freaking-hoo
03/23, 03:45pm reply
No one is being forced to do anything. MP3 format still works wonders on the iPod.
OptimusG4
Mac Elite
Joined: Feb 2003
mp3
03/23, 03:57pm reply
Doesn't Mr. Glaser know that iPods play mp3s?
Actually, it is not a bad idea if and only if it is done in a way that increases ipod sales.
DeepDish
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Joined: May 2001
this is rich...
03/23, 03:59pm reply
Real is telling others to open their format?
Do they mean just like they do?
Please.
jpellino
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Joined: Oct 1999
Odd.
03/23, 04:01pm reply
1) Why would they care if Apple is hurting itself? Seems any good businesperson would WANT the competition to do things bad for themselves ;-)
2) The iPod was available before the iTunes Music Store even existed, wasn't it? In fact, the iPod originally shipped without AAC support. I'm not sure what the Real problem is.
AllenHuffman
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Joined: Dec 1999
iPod should open up
03/23, 04:06pm reply
Apple themselves said that they make no money on iTunes to support the higher margin iPod. If they opened the iPod up to work with other services, so much the better. Then, people could buy an iPod with confidence that they will be able to play music no matter where they buy it. However, they should not do the reverse; they should not let iTunes purchases be played on other players.
nemanirc
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Joined: Mar 2000
iPod
03/23, 04:07pm reply
You know if someone is using mp3-iPods-ripping their music, any of this, they're capable and do know that any music bought in a format other than Apple AAC can be burned to a cd and imported into their iPods. I assume this is why Apple is not all that concerned right now of all the whining of competitors not having access to the number one music player, the iPod. Because any bought music can be put on any mp3 player with a couple of additional steps. Inconvient maybe. But WMA can be put on an iPod by re-ripping the track & importing it into iTunes and then the iPod. And any Apple AAC can be re-ripped and put on any other mp3 player from Dell, Sony or any others.
mozart11
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Joined: Aug 2000
Open the Pod!
03/23, 04:16pm reply
Why NOT open up the iPod to ALL formats? Apple has been preaching the use and full support of open standards with Mac OS X, broswers and file formats. So, why not take the next step and open up the iPod too? You can BET iPod sales will jump!
Apple made the mistake in the past of not licensing the Macintosh way back whenever (PLUS selling out to Microsoft). This is a similar situation, but Apple can hold off opening up the iPod to currently unsupported formats until they absolutely MUST.
JeffHarris
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Joined: Oct 1999
Who's fooling who?
03/23, 04:26pm reply
they're not fooling anybody.
MS, Apple, Linux, somebody please send these people the way of the failed dot-com. They've been singing their death song for years...
killer_735
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Joined: Apr 2003
re:Open the Pod!
03/23, 04:26pm reply
"Apple has been preaching the use and full support of open standards with Mac OS X, broswers and file formats. So, why not take the next step and open up the iPod too? You can BET iPod sales will jump!"
Is WMP an open standard?? no.
Is Real an open standard?? no.
If anything 'tweaking' how the iPod can work with other proprietary formats would be a good thing, but then I'm SURE, Microsoft will ask for licensing fees???
As long as they support the Open Standards, I would hope Apple doesn't have any with these. They keep evolving and now that some DVD's will be using AAC to do certain things on them, I'd think that AAC is a good choice. I'm sure the DRM part of it will continue to be modified over time though and this might cause some issues?
trevc
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People pushes Apple
03/23, 04:29pm reply
to give away free computers. People say "that Apple is creating problems for itself by forcing consumers to buy computers from Apple....'Apple's (market) share will go down if they continue to do this,' People said. "The only way to presently get Apple computers is to (buy) them from Apple (indirectly or directly).
pdot
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