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Mac OS X helps ease university IT demands

updated 01:35 pm EST, Wed February 11, 2004

University uses Macs, OS X


Computerworld reports that support costs and demands fell as Edith Cowan University's communications school (as well as recently purchased 60 G5 machines--with more Xserve G5s and an Xserve RAID on the way): "Our teaching machines are a mixture of iMacs, G4s, and the new G5s which isn’t a bad thing as OS X will boot of all machines regardless of type. The desktops support roaming profiles and directory access which works well. OS X stores everything on the servers and only writes locally when it needs to so there is no local caching. Also, each client allows secure logins via SSL which addresses one of the concerns universities face."


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    Not realistic

    We have experienced the exact opposite at the Uni I work for. The roaming home directories are too large to properly manage. If you have any macromedia packages installed, you had better make sure you have enough storage to handle the home direcories. There also seems to be a problem if you use NFS as a means to connect to your home directory server. I think it was a good idea, but truthfully, even microsoft saw the flaw of roaming profiles in a large computing environment. Though they still support it, they do not recommend it.

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    MCSE's working on emails

    I can see it now, thousands of MCSE's in schools all over the country putting together emails to their school board insider contacts, telling them why OSX is actually a very bad thing indeed.

    Lack of support, no software, not a "real world" OS etc etc etc etc etc...

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    RE: MCSE's

    Actually, I started out as a mac user and will tell you that apple has the best os for consumers. You simply can't beat it, but for Professional IT, they have a long way to go. I think you really need to work in a large scale enterprise to fully understand this. When you talk cost, you have to include man hours for setup and support. A little more needs to be done to make this the operating system to have. Yes, microsoft is evil, but they have put together that make domain/enterprise administration much easier. That means, in the long run it is cheaper as well.

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    NFS....

    NFS is an insecure network protocol that allows user spoofing. I don't recommend it.

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    RE: MCSE's

    The key phrase in this post is "Professional IT" every time I come across this description in a discussion of MS products it means "Microsoft IT". This leaves out any OS which is not 90% or larger in "market share". It has nothing to do with ease of management or cost. This is about what a "Professional IT" department already knows and if it is MS than it will always be easier to administer a MS based network. And now for "man hours for setup and support" costs, I know at my small company (180 people all but 2 are on Windows) the IT department spends several hours each week keeping up with Virus and System Updates jsut to keep the MS Systems running and we still seem to get hit each time a new worm/virus etc comes out. We (even the Mac users) had our IM truned off today because a few of the Windows folks introduced a virus into our network through the IM system. (More man hour costs)

    That is my 2cents.

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    Re: NFS

    Uhm... do you have to use NFS? Why not AFP?

    To the first poster: Roaming home directories can work just fine if managed properly. This isn't a large school (2500 students) so that shouldn't be too difficult at all.

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    RIPE

    The stupid RIPE guy is just RIPE to commit suicide.

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    ummm....

    You're the only one saying RIPE in this thread (until me), and you're not even funny about it. At least the ripe guys make it clever...

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    "P" IT

    "...the IT department spends several hours each week keeping up with Virus and System Updates jsut to keep the MS Systems running."

    It's called self-justification. If it were a government, they would be called pork. What is amazing is that profit-conscious corporations seem to think that laying off a bunch of people doing real work is better than lopping off the dead weight of a "Professional" IT department in exchange for alternative systems that do a better job of not getting in the way of your "real" work.

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    did you read it?

    The migration was from os 9 to os x - not windows to mac. There is a brief mention of comparative support between them and a wintel dept. but there are no real details given about the other department so that comparison is pretty worthless.

    Another lame macnn news post with a misleading summary.

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