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Seattle Post-Intelliger looks at Microsoft's MacBU

updated 02:50 pm EST, Fri January 30, 2004

Microsoft\'s MacBU

The Seattle-Post Intelligencer offers a , which it says is "one of the closest things to neutral ground in a computer world divided into technological factions. The Mac BU, as it's known, makes Microsoft software for Apple computers, bridging the gulf between the companies' operating systems and linking their respective followers in the process. It may be the only place at Microsoft where someone can be spotted wearing an 'I Don't Do Windows' shirt. And nowhere else would a Microsoft employee, recounting a speech where he captivated a crowd, liken himself to Apple's Steve Jobs, rather than to Microsoft's Bill Gates."

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Nice spin

Fix Entourage and all the exchange server problems, fix the fact that secure docs in Office 2003 aren't supported with Office 2004 Mac.
Talk is cheap. Office is expensive. Fix it and they will come.

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yeah they luv us so much

that they forgot to include XML implementation.....

iOffice!!

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Jobs vs Gates

Do people elsewhere at Microsoft seriously compare themselves to Bill Gates because of a captivating speech? Whatever else Gates is, I've never heard him described as "captivating."

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pathetic

Yes, because MacBU is so neutral that it makes software that and falsely claim its compatibility with the MAC?

Just use Windows Media Player for the Mac and you know what im talking about. In most circumstances it doesn't even play its own .WMA files that works perfectly on the my PC.

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Job vs Gates

What do you care if Bill Gates gives captivating speeches? Heck, Jim Jones was a capitaviting speaker and so was Hitler. So Steve Jobs is a capitaviting speaker, no doubt about that, does that mean you have to be a lemming?

Sheesh. While PC users camp have too many idiots, we have too many sheeps.

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baaahhh!

I'm a sheep. Go Jobs!!! I am at the mercy of his RDF.

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Mac BU

I know it probably isn't the Mac BU's fault- but CMON!!! Microsoft makes INFERIOR products for Macs compared to the ones they make for their own OSes. Give us REAL exchange server compatibility with Entourage. Give us XML support for Excel 2004. Give us a Windows Media Player that isn't some half-baked port. Give us Access. Give us some real, well-programmed stable Mac versions that are nearly 100% identical and compatible with their Office 2003 equivalents. Somehow I doubt it will ever happen. We are stuck with paying for a mega slow IMAP client for Exchange@! We are stuck with future file compatibility issues between Excel files. We are forced to "migrate" to Windows XP because "Access only runs on PC's" If you guys really love Macs so much in the Mac BU, you'd speak up at these board meetings with Monkey Boy and Vole-man. And Jesus you need more than 160 employees to fix that atrocious piece of s*** called Entourage!!!

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We have so many

So many sheep we have to call them sheeps.

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In all fairness to the BU

They have made excellent products from time to time. There have been years where the Mac Office release was superior to the Windows one, IE 5 on a Mac was superior in many way at the time.

I suspect these guys would love the go-ahead to kick some mac a**, but getting corporate or budget support must be a nightmare. As I recall, the whole Exchange thing was because the Mac BU didn't have access to anything coming out of the Outlook group.

Anyway, no question they're lagging now. Office 2004 looks underwhelming and the VPC purchase seems to indicate that Microsoft's long-term plan is to provide Mac "support" for their flagship apps through emulation.

I have a lot of respect for those guys though, they must put up with a lot over there.

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worser

Gates is the _worser_ of the two.

> So many sheep we have to call them sheeps.

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Bullshit

Nothing those losers at the Mac BU have ever produced has been even remotely "excellent" nor does it come close to being Mac-like. A truly "excellent" piece of software for the Mac is something that is not a hodge-podge of bloatware where you have to spend 20 minutes figuring out where the h*** that command or in-application "wizard" is to accomplish a simple task that should actually take all of 10 seconds.

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Apple announces giveaway

http://www.apple.com/

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DIY

why doesnt apple make their own c***. They're the people you should be griping at, not microsoft. Sheesh!
s**** Jobs and his RDF.

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Re:Bullshit

Having just today taught 3rd graders how to make a basic PowerPoint presentation, I have to dissagree with you. Office X kicks a**, but the compatibility with the latest Windows version is not there. The Mac BU makes great software when they want to. I will not be updating our school to the new Office 2004 version until they include all of the compatibility features that others in this thread have already mentioned. Access for Mac just isn't going to happen. MS can't compete with Filemaker on the Mac platform.

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MacBU Employees

are just losers who couldn't get a job at Apple.

Just bunch of clowns who don't know how to program for Mac or Windows.

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Thank you!

Thank you MacBU. I use Office X and Remote Desktop Connection and appreciate MacBU hard work. These two products fit my needs.

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re: Presentation

I just got a bunch of 5th graders yesterday to figure out AppleWorks Presentation . . . hey, wow, and that was FREE with our iBook rolling labs!

It's a great app; some people have called it under-whelming ie "Where's the next update?" Since the days of Clarisworks, has suited me just fine. I never thought I'd say it, but Office:Mac is okay. But I still stick with AppleWorks anyways.

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Apple Works is OK

AW is OK for a relatively free (or otherwise cheap) bundled app. However, it isn't robust enough to be a fill-in for Microsoft Office. However, it sure would be nice to see Apple do an aqua version of Open Office and add Keynote, a limited version of Filemaker (which destroys Access) that can open Access files and save in Access format- and Omni Graffle that can open and save Visio files. Bundle it with Mail.app with Exchange support, iCal and Address Book, call it Apple Works iSupreme or something and voila! Holy s*** I would pay $499 for it if it offered real compatibility and those "Mac only" features (like Keynote has) that would just make it DESTROY the MS Office suite....

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Powerpoint presentation?

I'm sorry, but I have to go down this road. Why in the h*** would anyone teach our young children how to use powerpoint?

Powerpoint is proving the point that no one can come to a point using powerpoint. It is a tool that is dumbing down our society and introducing more communication problems than it solves.

You should be teaching math, reading and science to our 3rd graders, on paper, from text books.

Some things a computer cannot improve upon.

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Re: Powerpoint Presentat.

using Powerpoint is what they do in the "real world" in boring CEO meetings, in school libraries, in staff development sessions- etc. That is a FACT. Just because it is morally reprehensible and lame to use it, schools teach kids real world applications of subjects. maybe the powerpoint was about Science, or a Math concept. Don't be so damn judgemental if you haven't stepped foot in a real classroom this century.

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Seattle Post-Intelliger looks at Microsoft's MacBU

updated 02:50 pm EST, Fri January 30, 2004

Microsoft\'s MacBU

Nice spin

yeah they luv us so much

Jobs vs Gates

pathetic

Job vs Gates

baaahhh!

Mac BU

We have so many

In all fairness to the BU

worser

Bullshit

Apple announces giveaway

DIY

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MacBU Employees

Thank you!

re: Presentation

Apple Works is OK

Powerpoint presentation?

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