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Darwine: project to bring Windows emulation to OS X

updated 12:25 pm EST, Wed January 28, 2004

Porting Wine to Mac OS X

is an open-source implementation of the Windows API on top of X and Unix: "It does not require Microsoft Windows, as it is a completely alternative implementation consisting of 100% Microsoft-free code, but it can optionally use native system DLLs if they are available. Wine provides both a development toolkit (Winelib) for porting Windows sources to Unix and a program loader, allowing many unmodified Windows binaries to run on x86-based Unixes, including Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris."




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  1. MacNN.com Reader

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    This is AWESOME!

    This is incredible news! I've seen people with their Linux boxen around here with Wine and it's really improved recently. Compatibility with some fairly complex apps. I think I just might join this project.

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    yes!

    great news!.... s**** M$

  1. MacNN.com Reader

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    Last time I checked...

    WINE 100% depended on INTEL compatible Chips/Chipsets. It's written with no other platforms in mind. Well noone knows, I wish them good luck!

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    Re: Last time...

    You're right. And, IIRC, it doesn't actually emulate anything, it passes the instructions straight to the processor. So they'd have to right an entire x86->PPC translation program.

    This is something that would work for Darwin/Intel, theoretically.

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    Awsome!

    Let's get some Mac developers behind this to get it moving. This would be a "killer" product.

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    Yippee!

    Half-Life!1 Finally, I can get rid of my PC! :)

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    qemu

    http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
    This thing allows you to run x86 Linux binaries on a PPC Linux, and they should even link against native shared libraries. Port Wine and this and you're set, basically :)

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    chill out

    This will never be a killer app. I can appreciate what they've done, but running REAL microsoft software is often flakey much less trying to clone the API of this closed system. It's impossible to ever get a solid implementation that people could depend on.

    It's like trying to hit a moving target in the dark.

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    RE: chill out

    I would sum it up as simple as, "trying to hit a moving target in the dark.". At the end of the days it is possible and will require some creative thinking. But the API rules are set so to clone this is only a matter of time.

    As for running Half-Life, uhh, it might be a little slow to translate the information to an acceptable speed. But great for everything else.

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    It IS a killer app!

    This WILL work on a PPC because they are including a X86 emulator. The beauty is that only a fraction of the code in a program would get emulated, the rest would run at full, native speed!

    Sun had a similar program many years ago call WABI. I used it for years on SPARCstations. True, many programs crashed, but the goal is not to replace your fine Mac programs, but to be able to use the one or two necessary Windows programs.

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