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Apple talks G5 Xserve, enterprise with Serverpipeline

updated 10:00 am EST, Fri January 23, 2004

G5 Xserve, enterprise

Doug Brooks, product manager for server hardware at Apple, touts the G5 prcoessor, Mac OS X software, management tools, open-source support/integration, and competitive pricing as : " People are looking for compelling value in not so much the cost of the product, but in what does it cost to deploy it. Anyone in the enterprise space who looks at products looks at [both] the cost of the product, and what are the costs to service it. If they're not, they're making a mistake."




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  1. MacNN.com Reader

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    Interesting assumptions

    So they are assuming people are rational. Interesting, interesting. How then to explain the way Mazda Protege sales spiked when Ford put their name and label on it? Or the way DOS people thought GUI was a bad idea until Windows? Or the dominance of Windows all these years?

    I think they'd do better to figure out ways to convince IT people that they'd have higher salaries and less work to do if they went with Macs...! Not to mention giving them free 17" Powerbooks. Didn't MS have a kickback program going for college IT people at one time? I know it's illegal, but since when did the government enforce laws when corporations are breaking 'em?

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    Stupid Question....

    Sorry everyone, but I can't find the answer to this stupid question:

    "Can a G5 Xserve run all normal Mac OS X applications just as a regular G5 does?"

    "Are there any restrictions?"

    Thanks for your schooling.....

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    Killer app needed...

    I sent Apple some feedback last night about the need for a killer app on OS X server: A full fledged groupware system like Exchange server.

    Apple should create something that can compete with this, do it better and provide 100% functionality to Mac, WIndows and Linux clients. Oh, and some plug-ins so it can talk to Lotus Notes and Exchange server. Sound interesting? Anyone?

  1. MacNN.com Reader

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    Yes

    Mac OS X Server can run any program that will run on OS X (Client). Mac OS X Server isn't a different operating system, it is a different configuration and includes different applications and services.

    Well, not quite, but close. This answer should help you with 99% of applications. Some of the configuration differences (like case-sensitive file system) just might cause a few things to behave a little differently.

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    Re: Stupid Question...

    Why on the planet wouldn't an XServe be able to run Mac OS X applications just as a regular G5?!?!

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    Re: Stupid Question

    "Why on the planet wouldn't an XServe be able to run Mac OS X applications just as a regular G5?!?! "

    It is better to ask. This way he understands.

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    That's what I asked..

    I told you it was a stupid question, but I thought there may be limitations .... like graphics output.

    I am considering buying a G5 for Video / Audio production. Some may be in the studio, and some may be live, so I am interested in the thin rack mount and maybe slaving the controls to a powerbook.

    Also, if video production goes well, wouldn't the benefit of Apple's new xGrid "?" and Rendevous work well other G5 xServes / xRaids are needed for rendering and pre-post production?

    What if you could rent-a-GHZ when needed if you had a big project?

    Just some purchase questions....

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    Yes

    Xserve can run anything that runs on OS X Server. This is pretty much everything that runs on OS X, except for apps that check the OS version and refuse to install on server (e.g. GarageBand).

    These apps you can install if you do a little workaround.

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    GarageBand

    I have seen reports where one of the new iLife apps, I think it was GB, wouldn't run on Mac OS X Server. I don't know why.

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    There we go....

    That is one of the applications I was thinking about ( Until I can afford Logic )

    I wonder if there are others like this, and why.

    I'm I correct? Would the xServe unit be a good choice if I wanted to expand without limitations for video, or would a regular Dual G5 be just as good, if not better betcause of the bus card support?

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