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01/16/2004, 6:35pm, EST

Friday, January 16th

Reader: GarageBand requires DVD for install

A MacNN reader discovered that GarageBand (part of iLife '04 released today) cannot be installed without a DVD Drive. After speaking with a few Apple representatives the reader found that not only did the reps not know about the system requirements but had the same problems on their own machines. A closer look at the GarageBand system requirements reveals that having a DVD drive is indeed a requirement to install the popular audio program. Another reader provides a workaround for installing iLife on Mac OS X Server.

The full email detailing the disappointing event is below:


"I just received my copy of iLife '04 and it does not support garage band software without a DVD drive. There is one CD in the box with iTunes, iPhoto, and iMovie... the other disc is a DVD which includes all 5 products. I called Apple tech support and the person i spoke with had no idea that this was the case and said that he himself had a copy of iLife and all the garage band keyboard and software accessories waiting for him at home and that he did not have a DVD drive himself. However after going to the Apple page he noticed a seemingly new requirement that Garage Band installation requires a DVD drive. I then called the Apple store to see about a refund and that person ALSO had no idea about the DVD requirement... to end the story, he did give me $25 off... but this is a warning to anyone who really wanted garage band. (lukily the key product for me was iPhoto... but garage band would have been very nice) - Scott"


[Greg] "Well I got my copy of iLife today...dropped it in my G5 and was not able to install because iLife will not run on OS X Server, according to the error message anyway. Well, I am not sure what else will break, but if you copy the contents of the DVD to your drive and edit the Packages/iLife.pkg/Contents/Resources/InstalCheck and remove:

# If the running Mac OS X Server, error out.
if( -f $SERVER_VERS) {
$IFERR_RESULT = $kIFERR_SERVER_ERROR;
last DO_CHECKS;
}

It will install..."


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Big surprise? Not.
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01/16, 7:01pm, EST
This is NOT news! Good grief, this was circulated the day it came out. Read the requirements, don't blame Apple if you aren't going to do the due diligence that requires all of 30-seconds before buying.
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Correction...
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01/16, 7:02pm, EST
It was discussed in the Forums and elsewhere the day it was announced, not the day it was released.
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MacNN = C|NET
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01/16, 7:04pm, EST
M stands for Microsoft, 'a' stands for ass, 'c' stands for the other side, 'N' can't stand for news, 'N' stands for neandrothols.

I'm oooooout of here, MacNN sucks.
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01/16, 7:08pm, EST
I'm surprised that anyone would be surprised! Unless they've never installed iDVD before or Soundtrack. None of that stuff can fit on a CD. It's just common sense. Plus it says so on Apples site!

Oh well.
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Shocker!!!
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01/16, 7:10pm, EST
Jesus, how old of a mac must you own to not have at least a combo drive? Have they shipped any macs in the past 2 years that didn't have a combo drive? I mean COME ON here! Plus, if your machine is old enough to only have a CD drive, it probably doesn't meet the rest of the requirements either.
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dvd drive
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01/16, 7:20pm, EST
i have a g4 that is under 2 years old and doesn't have a dvd drive. the computer runs everything fine -- i still see no reason to have a dvd drive. besides this of course. Seems to me to be no reason not to have MULTIPLE cds to install software from... apple would never have done this type of thing a few years ago. I guess I won't be buying iLife now...
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Re: Wow
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01/16, 7:25pm, EST
obviously this user has never installed iDVD before -- what need do you have for a DVD burning package without a DVD drive? common sense people. Besides, I personally looked at the web page for garageband a few days ago and saw nothing about this requirement. If it was posted, it was done so in extremely small print which is pretty poor when apple was selling computers without dvd drives as recently as this past year.
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Don't really need DVD
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01/16, 7:27pm, EST
The target machine doesn't really need a DVD drive. I just installed the everything but iDVD on a 600 MHz Graphite iMac with no optical drive (it's broken at the moment). I simply made a disk image of the DVD installers on another machine, copied it onto my iPod, plugged the iPod into the iMac, mounted the image, and installed iLife (including GarageBand). Note that the installers are hidden. The easiest way to find them is to select the install icon (which is an alias) and then choose "Show Original" from the File menu.
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Re: Don't really need DV
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01/16, 7:33pm, EST
That's a really good idea. The problem is if you don't have another computer to copy it from! Also, out of curiosity, how big was the Garage Band install?
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idvd without dvd drive
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01/16, 7:55pm, EST
I agree that the DVD requirement is no big deal but to the poster who said,

"what need do you have for a DVD burning package without a DVD drive?"

I do some DVD creation with DVD Studio Pro but can't burn DVDs on my machine (I was on a budget when buying a computer). I transfer the files to burn to my firewire drive and take it to school where I burn DVDs in a computer lab on campus.

These are not "DVD burning packages," but rather packages for DVD development.
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