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Wired: Mac founder and Microsoft relationship

updated 12:05 am EST, Mon January 12, 2004

 

Wired on Mac 20th


Wired News is running a series on the 20th anniversary of Apple's Macintosh, including the [Microsoft], which is also celebrating 20 years on the Mac (a special Macworld Expo in the Microsoft booth exhibits of dozens of older generation Macs running older versions of Microsoft software). The article notes the "marriage of convenience" offers Microsoft a very profitable business with over 7 million Mac Office users worldwide. [corrected information about Raskin's comments]


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    says he started Apple...

    Jef did not say that he started Apple 25 years ago; he was referring to the age of the Mac. To quote the article:

    "But from the perspective of Jef Raskin -- known by many as the "father of the Macintosh" -- the Mac's not turning 20 at all this year. It's older than that. "To me, it's of course turning 25, because I started it in 1979," says Raskin. "I'm really pleased ... that the product has legs. There's not too many products that are still going on the same concept 20 years later."

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    Microsoft Mac BU

    I may not agree with MS's business practices ("abhor" would be appropriate), but it's with MS's help that Apple maintains it's position in the marketplace (and they are slowly gaining users). It's great that entire countries are switching to OpenOffice (Israel? Germany?), but until OOo is widely used, I believe Apple is grateful for MS Office. Hence the mention of Microsoft Office in the advertising for iLife. "It's Like Microsoft Office For The Rest Of Your Life."

    Actually, upon speaking that aloud, it sounds like the description of a nightmare: Being forced to use MS Office until you expire.

    :: Shudder ::

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    your quote

    "To me, it's of course turning 25, because I started it in 1979"

    that says he started it...

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    Mac Turns 20...

    ...Apple turns 25. So, no Raskin. The Mac is not older than 20.

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    Raskin is right...

    ...read your Apple history books. Raskin *did* start the Mac project. Jobs took it over, but the original idea for a computer called "Macintosh" was Raskin's, and he did start designing the machine (conceptually-- he wasn't drawing schematics AFAIK) in 1979.

    Now, whoever wrote this news item reporting the article is daft-- you'd have to be to misinterpret the Raskin quote so horribly. He clearly implies starting the Macintosh project, *not* Apple.

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    For my illiterate friends

    Apple was founded in 1976, which will make them 28 years old this year.

    Raskin says that, to him the Mac is 25 years old. So, Mr. "no Raskin," you are completely missing the point of Raskin's statement, and probably the entire article.

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    Read the article

    It's always a good idea to read the source article, since MacNN is always s******* up, though this seems more like an outright distortion than a simple mistake. The lie is even emphasized with italics.

    Intentional or not, it's really poor, and should be changed.

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    Parasitic Wasps

    Parasitic Wasps are like Microsoft. They lay eggs on host caterpillars (like Apple) and the larvae feed off the caterpillars blood until they are self sufficient. Then they spin cocoons that nearly kill the caterpillar when they are old enough to fly away.

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    Re: for my illiterate fri

    Illiterate only applies to reading and writing. A person who can't do math (as in subtracting 1976 from 2004) is innumerate.

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    Mac is 20

    Mac was CONCEIVED on 1979. It was RELEASED to the PUBLIC in 1984. It is similar to having a baby. It gets conceived before it comes out from the mothers womb. Except instead of 9 months, it took 5 years to be developed.

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