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GUI guru Tog weighs in on Panther, criticizes Dock

updated 11:45 am EST, Mon January 12, 2004

Tog Panther commentary

Human Interface guru Bruce (ex-Apple employee) "Tog" Tognazzini has posted a series of "."




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    Sorry Tog, You're Wrong

    Think his dock comments are competely off. Many of the issues he addresses can be solved through simple customization tweaks in the preferences. For example, bitching about taking space at the bottom of the screen with widescreen displays is solved by putting it over at the right where it is easily accessible but out of the way.

    Today's dock is so much better than the original Apple menu it isn't even funny.

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    heh heh heh

    i think i agree also.

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    I couldn't care LESS wha

    TOG thinks. Interface guru, yeah, years ago maybe. Interface curmudgeon these days. Why does anyone care what he thinks anyway?

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    Tog

    Tog is an idiot still scamming clients by the appearance he contributed something meanful to the mac in the 80's...

    I could give a flying fish what his thoughts are..

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    er no actually

    tog speaks the truth. the dock is a pain in the a**, and needs to be replaced ASAP. bring back the apple and application switch menus. The Mac OS 9 GUI is WAY better then this piece of NeXT-inspired c***.

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    the dock has grown on me

    I use a program called Onyx to move the Dock to the upper right side of the screen. It is tidy and clean. I just wish there was a way to lock the order of your applications on the Dock. Either my wife or one of my kids will either move something out of the Dock or change it's position. Other than that, I don't miss the old Apple Menu.

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    Seriously now...

    Who listens to the opinion of someone that is STILL using IE? And for someone know for interface design, his site's design is not exactly amazing.

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    Tog...

    ...who?

    Sorry dude, your time has past.

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    ?

    He b****** about Quickeys issues, but then compains about difficulty dragging files to the trash since it's not in the corner. Who drags files to the trash anymore? Especially someone who apparently likes keyboard shortcuts?

    Tog also neglects the whole problem in OS 9 & below with the trash can moving when different resolutions are used. Foolio.

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    menus

    People's love with the application menu has ALWAYS escaped me. I cannot think of any time since Multifinder came out that I actually used it. Yes, its much better to have a menu of running apps that you have to click on then a visible list that you can glance at at any time.

    As for the Apple menu, it started out as a DA, and only a DA holder, became customizable with System 7, and became a general mess from that point on. Half the users probably didn't know you could customize it, or know how (oh, got to love the ease of customization - add aliases to the Apple menu items folder, start sticking spaces or other special characters in front of the aliases to order them to a usuable order - yeah, great stuff there!). There's like 10 utilities out there for 9 and X that do what people want to do with the Apple menu, and tons better. But no, some of you just want your precious apple menu, with shortcuts to all your folders so everything is accessible, even if you have to scrool heavily left to right, up and down, to get to anything.

    You know, you could just spend $7 on FruitMenu, and make that money back up in savings from all the time you waste complaining about it not being there....

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