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HP unveils its iPod-based 'Digital Music Player'

updated 09:25 pm EST, Fri January 9, 2004

Digital Music Player

At the 2004 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina unveiled the HP-branded version of Apple's iPod, which is simply named Digital Music Player, which is scheduled for release in June. Fiorina during her keynote declared " at the Consumer Electronics Show while also announcing new entertainment products that HP hopes will help make its digital entertainment strategy a reality," according to CNET News.com.

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RIPE.

this HiPod is just RIPE to hold a 10-15 gig live jam.

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Fugly

Man that blue iPod is FUGLY. Long live the old white & chrome!

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it is

pretty nasty. Seeing a grey-blue iPod is just wrong.

But good for Apple, if the HP Digital Music Player (ooooh catchy name guys) looked as good as Apples then there wouldnt be people trying the HP DMP and then buying the Apple cause it looks cooler.

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BWAHAHAHAHA

BWA-HA-HA-HA! (snort) HAHAHAHAHA!

Oh my f'ing gawd. I cannot believe how ugly that is. Wow.

Man, who would have thought that just a little change of colour could be SO UGLY?

On the bright side, stupid PC users with no style or taste will probably EAT THIS UP. And that's good. So right on HP.

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God

Some Mac users are complete ButtPods.
Is the average age here 11?

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Re: God

The average age is 11, but those 11 year olds are driving Lexuses and drinking only the finest bottled water!

I already have an iPod, so I really don't care what the HP version looks like. I don't know why anyone would care if they already own one, and if you don't own one, how meaningful is some trash talk from someone who wouldn't even buy the "good" version of the product?

Me, all I sorta care about is being able to play my iTunes-bought music on some compatible device 5 years from now, since I'd like my digital music to have some shelf-life and not have to burn CDs. If partnering with HP makes that future more realistic, then I'm all for it.

In fact, if Apple crashes and burns in the digital music arena, and I can still get a compatible device because the standards lived on, I'm all for that too. Oh well, I guess I'm just a consumer, and not a fanboy.

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"God"

If that were true, and it isn't, the question is what are you doing with a bunch of 11yo?

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I think it's great

I think this was a great move for both Apple and HP. Apple gets their software featured on, what 20ish % of the PC market. Apple might not make money off of iTMS and it's stratagy is selling iPods, but Apple is going to be in a fight when M$ starts bundling it's brand on PC's. I don't know how they are going to appease their partners. In fact, perhaps that was part of HP's reasoning. Anyways this will be a standards war, WMP against AAC, which btw Real has also adopted, in their own way. Whatever happens, it will be an interesting year to watch :)

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Fiorina is a butt plug

In case you missed it, she justified the exodus of high tech jobs to India by the lack of educated Americans unwilling to perform skilled work for minimum wage or lower.
Maybe we should send the s**** to Calcutta to peddle her a** at a fraction of the price instead.

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say what you say

Fiorina, is hot. She is the richest biotch in the world too. f*** i get a boner thinking about how loaded and powerful that hoe is.

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HP's retail outlet--

was that right-- 110,000 retail outlets??

holy crapper

time to buy some Apple stock

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Hmm...

I must say that I love the look of the HP iPod. Call me odd, but HPs colors have always been loved by me. I have just always liked dark colors.

I'll probably be snagging one up, especially if is cheaper and supports Apple about as much as buying an i-iPod.

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This is great

Great for Apple, great for HP. It's also great that it's a different colour than Apple's. I know people who aren't crazy about white, so now there is an alternative. I hope HP sells tonnes of them and makes money too so they keep supporting it. if it flops for them, they will drop it faster than MS dropped the smart display!

It IS time to buy some Apple stock...

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Caly Fiorina just sucks.

At a recent meeting of corporate CEOs where they discussed issues such as outsourcing jobs abroad and hiring aliens to do American jobs she said, "No American has a God given right to a job any longer". Is that right Carly?

As a man with two young sons watching massive numbers of jobs being shipped abroad and the huge influx of illegal aiens taking our jobs in this country, all I can say is Carly, you don't have a right to one thin dime of my money. And I will do everything in my power to make sure that all my friends and aquaintances do the same. I hope you all do too. And unless we all do the same, this kind of greedy, short sighted thinking will drive us all to the bottom. At that point, when there's nobody to buy any of her company's goods, even she will realize that she may have been wrong.

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That is right...

You can support american jobs, by shopping/eating at local non box stores. Local stores return more of the money to local circulation, where as large box stores do not.

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pictures

Where can I find some pictures of this DMP... I can't find any.

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I want to see

Fiorina's bony a** bukakied by a hundred dotheads.

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American Jobs

i hardly think the illegal aliens are taking jobs that americans actually want! the aliens taking our jobs are the ones that corporate america fought and lobbied the government for permission to bring in.

think about it: illegal aliens are migrant workers, janitors, trash collectors, contractor laborers, maids, etc. now, tell me how many americans aspire their entire life to be a contract laborer, waiting on a corner every morning hoping someone picks them up for a job. and on top of that, you've got the contractors who prefer to hire these people instead since they pay them cash (and a lot less than an american) and there's no pesky minimum wage or even taxes.

americans will adapt. jobs have been shipped out before. manufacturing is no longer the strength of this nation. it's now done in places where companies can pay a fraction of the wage they would here, to people who can feed their families for a year with one month of that wage.

and protectionist tactics typically don't work out well for companies. it's been estimated that american make cars made in america have an approximate $1400 tax placed on it because of unions. foreign make cars that are made in america have an instant advantage as a result because they're not subject to unions.

and it's sad to see a cracker post something about dotheads on a mac board.

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Hmm, price?

Anyone watch the video? She said she'd bring it for a good price. If it's cheaper than an iPod and the internals are identical, I'd buy it.

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Re: American Jobs & Carly

I'm no apologist for Carly Fiorina, but I don't think what she said was meant to be taken as personal sentiment. It's just the reality of how this "global" economy changes the nature of labor in America and worldwide. Carly may (or may not) want to keep as many jobs as possible at home, but when competeing against so many other multinational corporations (especially in the technology sector), survival entails a race to the bottom. Yeah, it sucks mad d!ck, but that seems to be the case right now.

On the other hand, with the dollar as low as it currently is, it has become much cheaper for foreign companies to come back to the U.S. for manufacturing jobs... it's starting to happen right now, but will only last as long as the dollar stays this low in relation to other currency (which will change as soon as interest rates begin to rise again)... as a matter of fact, it is much, much cheaper for a european to buy a european luxury car manufactured in america and ship it overseas than it is to just buy it there in the first place. S***, you could probably buy and ship two cars from america for the price of one in europe, as it is right now.

All of this global economic, geo-political S*** is a great big complicated shell game, where the rich shuffle the money amongst themselves. Life goes on.

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Based on?

They have been saying the hPod is based on the iPod. It looks to me that it is identical to the iPod but with a different color scheme. To me based on would mean a completely different case design with the same iPod OS.

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price??

If HP sells the iPod the same price as Apple, I can NOT see the point??? I think Apple Fked up BIG TIME "giving away" his best seller, it ruins its image and it is 100% unnecessary as the iPods are compatible with Windows machines....
I am a bit preoccupied, will they sell the iBooks or the iMac the same way??
Completely wrong on a strategic point of view if you want my opinion! I would like to meet the guy who took this decision in Apple... nop, doesnt make no sense to me!...

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Carly & illegal aliens

To anyone who thinks illegal aliens are only taking jobs that Americans don't want to do, you been fed a lie and you swallowed it. In my area, entire industries that used to be union labor are done by illegal aliens. Oh, and the price of the products and services they provide never got any cheaper.

And we are now shipping high tech jobs by the thousands, if not millions, to foriegn countries.

Why do you think we are having such a problem creating jobs in this country?

Can you say Corporate responsibility? In my own life, I know the difference between what I CAN do and what I SHOULD do. I work for a Utility company. We are a Union company, yet we have some of the lowest utility rates in the country. And I'm sure those of you who b**** about unions are enjoying your weekend off, after a 40 hr. workweek to relax and recover from those paid holidays.

Carly and those like her can go to h***. Or better yet, just go to China. Or any of those countries they choose to support since it doesn't matter.

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Meet Steve Jobs...

Steve Jobs obviously took the decision.

Strategically, this is a good move. I starts to build the iPod as a standard other than for the 5% of us MacHeads. Where would the iPod be in five years time if it was Apple only, when so many other options are going to be out there?

Additionally, because Apple is going to be doing the manufacturing, we can hope that larger volumes bring decreasing prices all round.

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Carla & Illegal Alliens

I do not know why people are harsh on HP when other company like Dell and alike made their computers from China and other foreign places.
To keep price more competitive, these company have to do these. I am not defend them, but this is the reality. I you want them to keep all jobs here, then are you willing to pay a higher price for all your consumer product. Because it cost to manufacture and these company are not NON-Profit organization. They have to perform and answer to shareholders like you and I.
I think sometimes we as American thinks as God given right to have any jobs, healthcare, etc.., (These only happen in Socialist Countries. ) But This is not. you have to earn these rights. That is my 2cents.

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Two issues

HP's iPod Move and Building Overseas.

First, the agreement to have HP sell iPods has great potential. You not only get HP's name and credibility (don't underestimate that credibility) but HP's marketing muscle. I can see all kinds of bundles and special deals. Not to mention the power of an Apple presence on the Windows desktops with each HP machine. That desktop power is huge. Just the privilege of putting an icon there has started many contract and court proceedings. Windows users are very, very lazy and/or ignorant about choices beyond the desktop. While Apple will make less for each iPod HP sells, it will greatly increase the potential audience for ITMS and thus possibly make it a real profit center. Good move Apple.

Many companies are building and contract programming services overseas. It is a fact of capitalism that to be competitive, you have to get the most bang for your buck. How many of you would want to pay the kind of prices that would result from Apple products that were made here in the United States? I can just hear the boos now. No. If we want to bring more manufacturing and programming jobs back to the states, we have to be more competitive. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. That is how a lot of our economy was built. We started the industrial revolution to produce more products cheaper. Then we sold them to the rest of the world. Now, the American spirit that built this country needs to reassert itself and rise to the challenge.

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RECarla & Illegal Alliens

Moron-

People have a right to demand that companies which make money from them be invested in their communities. Americans have a right to refuse to have their money be funneled out of their country.

You know about as much about socialism, I'd wager, as you do about economics- SFA.

Illegal workers aside, the movement of jobs to India and China is "legal" and represents a greater loss of higher income.

You are acting as if you enjoy being raped by the fascist right-wing 'freemarket' dimwits that are rapidly turning the US into a rigidly classed plutocracy. Please shoot yourself today.

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RE: Price????

I disagree. One of the mistakes Apple made back in the days of the Macintosh was not licensing the OS to third party vendors. Apple tried to do this just before Jobs came back, which he quickly ended (rightly so), but it was too late, Apple had lost the OS wars and at that point it was an act of desperation. Here [iPod] they have an opportunity to dominate the market with their [Apple] OS and more importantly support a compression standard [AAC] that is not M$ based. This is the right move and it shows Apple is not making the same mistakes as they have in the past. It's a tough game out there, these decision do not have guarantees and no one can predict the future, but using the lessons of history helps lessen the odds for failure.

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sad

one of the things that made this country great was the average joe could go out and make a decent living for his family. as corporation greed grows and grows this is becoming harder and harder as the middle class no longer save money and struggle to keep up. they no longer have a voice (or don't express it) in politics. corporate ethics are no longer. companies buy a po box in another country and say they're now doing business there even tho all facilities are in the us. one company did this and pays 27k a year to the offshore government and doesn't pay millions in taxes. these people no longer care about "community", they want what our society gives at a discount and they're getting it. and we're paying. it's no wonder that cities no longer can afford good schools, enough police, etc. 300 people (almost all americans) have more combined worth than 3 BILLION of the rest of the world. and they want more. so i don't buy this competitive/price c***. it's simple greed. they have enough to go around, they just don't want to share it. it's like 9/11, months after that companies pleaded hardship and layed off tons of workers. it was later discovered that over 70% of those companies laying off people and using 9/11 as an excuse were not impacted at all from it. greedy b******* one and all.

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Greed.

Correct!, corporate profits are up 21%, and yet there are 3 million less jobs in America. Hey, what the heck, they have to have those corporate perks, like the jet, condo, cars, etc. right? Oh, and don't forget that per diem just for walking money. Corporate America sucks and sucks and sucks, and is filled with talentless, impersonal, dry, arses.

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Re:Carly & Illegal Aliens

HP does not employ illegal aliens. Do your homework before you open your mouth. Like any large corporation today, the do utilize resources overseas for reduced labor costs. However, that sort of outsourcing is done primarily in India, not China as you suggested. Again, do your homework. In the case of HP, it's important to remember that we are talking about a truly global corporation with offices and plants all over the world, not just America. Because they truly do play on the global market, they have a responsibility to ensure that ALL of their employees and customers have the same opportunities, not just their American ones. They also have a responsibility to the global community and doing what they can to ensure that community is given back to as a whole, not just the American community that they play in.

Don't let your patriotism make you blind to reality. I'm as much an American, and proud to be so, as anyone. But you have to realize that in addition to having a primary goal of lining it's upper echelon's pockets, big businesses now do have a responsibility to pay back and help sustain the global economy and community, not just the American one.

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Also jeans

The same thing happened to Levi Strauss --Our American jeans are no longer made in America. They are made overseas due to costs.

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re carla

"Moron-

People have a right to demand that companies which make money from them be invested in their communities. Americans have a right to refuse to have their money be funneled out of their country.

You know about as much about socialism, I'd wager, as you do about economics- SFA.

Illegal workers aside, the movement of jobs to India and China is "legal" and represents a greater loss of higher income.

You are acting as if you enjoy being raped by the fascist right-wing 'freemarket' dimwits that are rapidly turning the US into a rigidly classed plutocracy. Please shoot yourself today."

It is kind of intersting you can call another person name when they are disagree without. It is only my opion, just like yours. I do not like the way corporation America doing business . But I do not have a good solution for it. Do you?? I bet you don't. Do you and I willing to pay extreme high price for American made products ( parts included). If you do , then you are probably can not buy anything nowday.

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It's beautiful!

It is the best looking iPod rip-off yet! Seriously! I wonder how much it wll cost and how much of that Apple will get?

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"HP Blue" is quite ugly

Of all the shades of blue, why is this yucky shade of grey-blue the one that they pick? Seriously no one can say that that looks anything as good as the original white. Not saying that everything needs to look like Apple colors like Bondi blue etc, but to pick that color is a mistake, hopefully end result will be different, and the model shown was just a hastily made prototype of some sort.

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Color

I would have rather seen black, but that might be the next color for the iVid ...

How about gunmetal gray?

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re:Greed.

"Corporate America sucks and sucks and sucks, and is filled with talentless, impersonal, dry, arses."

Agree. To add to it, they'll get a 'BIG' bonus because they shopped out our jobs (Us in Canada too!) to call centres across the seas,etc. Ever wonder why the Manufacturing jobs in U.S. have declined for the last 40 months straight!?????!!!

Middle class is eroding faster than you can say recession and CEO's of all these companies are getting richer. My CEO is making a paltry $2 million a year plus benefits and is considered one of the lowest paid in Canada that they're looking at giving him a hefty raise, not because he necessarily deserves it, it's because everyone else is doing it.

It's hard to put logic to the thinking of the heads of companys ... their sons/daughters will be growing up and need a job too! (OK, they'll live off the inheritence, but what about nieces, nephews?)

To get back on topic, I think it's GREAT that HP is selling the iPod .. better than watering down the market further!. Just wish Dell did it as well!

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Exercise Your Rights!

"People have a right to demand that companies which make money from them be invested in their communities. Americans have a right to refuse to have their money be funneled out of their country."

Well, actually no, you don't have that "right." I guess you can ask...maybe if you ask really nicely. No? Well then, I suggest that if you want to make your demand, the only way you can do that is to not buy anything from those companies who have shipped jobs overseas (just don't look on the back of you iPod...you might have to give it up when you see where it's made). Just be prepared to pay extra. There are reasons it costs more to make things in the US. Keep that in mind the next time your union has a strike vote or the next time you hear about someone getting a million bucks for spilling coffee on themselves. Better yet, it's an election year. So think about it when you cast your ballot...that is, for the 50% of you that actually take the time to vote.

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Alternative Name

It crossed my mind she could have named it the Digital Universal Music Player, or DUMP.

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'It's wrong'...

...well I'd like to see open season on content providers who 'force' viewers to watch 20 minutes of DVD movie previews (disabling skip) to get to what one has PAID for to watch ('feature presentation')...

I've been a big supporter of copyrights in the past but this latest kind of aggressive 'digital lifestyle' coersion leaves me listless... Aside from avoiding theatres & DVD rentals this kind of relentless subversion creates incentive for alternatives & leaves me somewhat unsympathetic to the content providers' 'cause'...

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Apple Manufacturing

For all of those here complaining about 'American" companies shiping jobs overseas, WHERE DO YOU THINK YOUR APPLE COMPUTER WAS MADE??? IOWA??

Actually, how about Taiwan. Although Apple maintains a skeleton manufacturing force in the US, most of their products are made in SE Asia.

Of course, all of the suck-a** Apple appologists will find this totally acceptable -- just because Steve-O did it...

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It's the Enterprise...

While the initial 'bridge building' between Apple and HP will center on the iPod...before the end of 2004, you will see HP selling PowerPC based servers running Xserve.

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iPay (too much)

First you change the color, I'm ok with that (broaden you market) and make more CA$H. But, what in the name of Bill Gates are you thinking. Have you guys at Apple completely stolen the Microsoft way of treating you customers? $249 for a mini iPod? Now you're just down right greedy and you know it! I think $199 would have been a better price and the entire music world would have eaten them up like the little candy treats they look like. Apple, stop the being so greedy. We love you products but it's these kinds of pricing tables that drive so many people to the PC market. Use common sense next time you price a new product.

Now on the fence,
Shallow pockets

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Good going Carleton

And who's going to buy your pricey toys now that good paying jobs for nerds have gone to India? Filthy w****.

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NAPSTER / SAMSUNG

I just saw the samsung player on techtv, anyone have any info on that device?

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Florina is what?

Have you opened anything but a JCPenny catalog or even a National Geographic lately? My GOD! you are desperate.

The only thing that you may be close in your assessment is the BIOTCH part.

Ack.

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This is Ignignot.

On the moon, we pull down Fiorina's pants and we spank her with moon rocks.

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Good for Apple, but�

Its a nice feather in Apple's cap, but I'm so pissed at Carly Fiorina's cavalier attitude about shipping jobs overseas that I won't buy anything HP until she apologizes, or leaves HP.

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Florina leaves?

Can you be any more childish?
If they provide the best quality product, then buy it, and if they do not, then don't. Since they really don't, I'm with you! b****.

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50 th post

Great move Apple. HiPod is cool.

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running Xserve ?

Duh ?

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there you go!!

How long before Carly says "Beat it Steve. I'm buying your half-assed operation." ? I give it a year, tops.

Bye bye, Apple. You were good for a few laughs while you lasted. We have to put you in the trashbin where you so rightfully belong.

Finally, all you Apple dickheads can just shut the f*** up and pay homage to a REAL business leader. You can do that right here, at HPNN.com.

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"World Market"

I think they all suck, Apple, HP, GM, Levis, you name it. But Carly sucks worse for being proud of it.

Let's talk about the concept of a "Worldwide Market". That's another one of those little slogans that today's corporate America and their lawmaker friends like to use to explain away the lack of investment into jobs & their own communities that their price-shopping jobs and services causes.

I'd love to see statistics from these "Worldwide Marketeers" that explains where the vast majority of their goods sell at. I think we all know that it is of course, right here. They want their cake and they want to eat it also. "Worldwide" actually means outsourcing, but they depend on the "Market"ing and selling that's going on much closer to home. The whole notion of corporations needing to be multi-national is mostly c***. Multi-national when they need to avoid taxes, relocate a factory and get cheaper labor, but much more localized when they want to sell their wares.

I'm old enough to remember when corporate performance meant much more than stock performance and highly paid management. It meant being part of the community. Being involved in and improving people's lives.

And regarding illegal aliens, I'd be happy to pay more for fast food, roofing, meat packing, landscaping, trash removal and hotel rooms if I knew it were going to a citizen of this country. Most of these jobs were formerly done by legal workers and the price of those products and services has gone up, not down, since hiring illegal workers has become almost universal. Where's the money going........

And this to all the anti-union boneheads out there. Union membership has been on the decline since the 1950s. Illegal immigration has been sharply on the rise since the late 1980s. Unions didn't cause this problem. Irresponsible corporate greed is the problem.

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