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PIVA to drop Macs; streamline computer system with PC

updated 03:40 pm EST, Wed January 7, 2004

PIVA to drop Macs

In an upcoming article in 's Print & Graphics magazine, the Printing Industries of Virginia announces its goal to "become more of a business consultant to its membership." In keeping with this vision, PIVA has "completely reconfigured its computer system, changing from a Mac platform to PC." PIVA says "while Mac is the preferred platform with graphic designers, the PC format will allow PIVA to focus on business related issues and have a compatible system in order to be more effective."

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PIVA

Sounds too close to PETA for me.
I'm sure they taste just as good though.

Y-ummy.

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who? what?

We can now sell crappy software and services to the rest of the useless PC users out there.

s**** them

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01/07, 04:23pm | report spam | close Reply |
huh?

a printing company dropping macs to become more compatible? am i reading that right?
wouldn't dropping macs make it less compatible? unless you are talking about using publisher, and if they are, then how can any reputable customer take them seriously?

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boooo.

s**** you then, don't want your business anyway.

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01/07, 04:33pm | report spam | close Reply |
duh

dumbing everything down to the lowest common denominator! Is the best way to reach the masses.

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They're just upset

Because Jobs didn't announce any G5's... doh!

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Hmmm

I had a client that was in the publishing industry. They hired a relative to handle the tech-end of things and switched from the Mac to the PC, the whole be compatible with their client argument peppered with the Apple is going out of business...Apple is still in business they aren't.

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The other way

Fortunately I work in the department going the other way: we're losing half a dozen Dell machines in April and replacing them with Macs.

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COOL!

dump those macs!

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No Sense

This actually does no make a whole lot of sense for a few reasons
1) Macs (esp. under Panther) network well to PCs!
2) It make sense to have some variation in platforms in house for compatibility - their argument doesn't make much sense
3) When viruses and worms hit who you gonna call?.....your macs are gone..
4) Over the live of the two machines Macs cost much less! (Obviously initial outlay is more....)
Just some thoughts....

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great headlines

...and I thought all we needed were trolls to dump apples market share. Buy low, wait for expo, sell quick, erode price instantly, wait for 'leak' or expo or rumor and repeat????
How about some news that a 1st grader couldn't tear apart?

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blackbird

"cool!" is a bigot.

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Consider the source

Don't forget, half the population has an IQ or 100 or less.

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I don't get it.

Macintoshes are compatible with both Windows and Mac OS natively, right out of the box. So they switch to Windows PCs to be ONLY compatible with Windows... so they can be more compatible? *scratch* *scratch* If they say so.

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Viva la PIVA

PIVA says "while Mac is the preferred platform with graphic designers, the PC format will allow PIVA to focus on business related issues and have a compatible system in order to be more effective.

What PIVA does, according to their website:

Industry through its staff, organization and committee structure, involving primarily CEOs and senior management. PIVA serves the industry through the following:

� Member Benefits and Services
� Continuing Education Programs
� Self Promotion
� Conventions and Meetings
� Lobbying and Political Action

(and yes, that weird first sentence is verbatim)

So PIVA's function is to serve and promote PIVA. Who cares if dumping the preferred platform is a big f***-you to the designers and printers they supposedly benefit... there's lobbying to be done!

Hey! Time to get that G4 photo off your home page! Maybe a nice Pantone Process Blue Screen of Death instead.

http://www.piva.com/

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Bad, bad CEO!

Uh oh, sounds wike somebody's widdle CEO got of his widdle cage and started spouting nonsense about 'bivniss' and 'effectiveness'!

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Bean Counters?

It looks like they where in need of an hardware upgrade (I bet they where still using OS9, this is print remember), and some business bean counters got involved at management level, The non-creative/IT dept was told the you need to use Windows to be 'more compatible & it will be cheaper too' Bet the creative side are pulling there hair with the new M$ only workflow.

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great news

great news for the IT department, because they will have lot more work now.
Macs are compatible with everything instead of switching to windows they should upgrade some computers and to X and then maybe 1 copy of virtual PC to have complete compatibility with the others.
Good look.

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Good for the employment

Heh, watch their IT expenses rise and consume a lot of their valuable resources... Who wants to bet on when the problems will surface? :P

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In all fairness...

In all fairness they would probably have almost as many problems with Macs as they will have with PCs. They don't exactly seem to be a very bright bunch...

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IT Department?

They must be hiring several new fresh faced IT MSCE losers to run patches and updates weekly.. and to run Active Directory Wizards. Oh well..

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Fools!

I'm not talking about PIVA, I'm talking about you all. What they're saying is that their business is NOT graphic design, its dealing with the business side of the profession. And whether you want to admit it or not, most of the business software out there is PC only or works better or is more feature rich on the PC.

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"Fools"

What software are you talking about?

Business Software = That dry s*** CEO/COOs use to lie to their shareholders and employees when they ask about their pensions that were sucked dry? That "creative" accounting software?

I've never met a CEO/COO/VP I've ever liked, and trusted both in the same person.

They fit right in with their choice of hardware.
I hope their IT department bleeds the bloodsuckers dry.

So, what almighty software is better on the PC?

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Who cares?

Good news for apple long term.

When they find their costs become too high to be competitive due to poor IT choices they'll go out of business and leave the field open to more legitimate players.

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PIVA

Sounds way too much like Peta, and that just makes me hungry.

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PIVA to drop Macs; streamline computer system with PC

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PIVA to drop Macs

PIVA

who? what?

huh?

boooo.

duh

They're just upset

Hmmm

The other way

COOL!

No Sense

great headlines

blackbird

Consider the source

I don't get it.

Viva la PIVA

Bad, bad CEO!

Bean Counters?

great news

Good for the employment

In all fairness...

IT Department?

Fools!

"Fools"

Who cares?

PIVA

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