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Apple offers QuickTime 6.5 with more 3GPP support

updated 01:10 pm EST, Thu December 18, 2003

QuickTime 6.5 debuts

Apple today announced , the industry's first mainstream media architecture for the creation and playback of rich multimedia content for both CDMA 2000 and GSM wireless networks. It expands support for mobile multimedia standards to include both 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) and 3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 (3GPP2). Additional features of QuickTime 6.5 include cross-platform Unicode text support, enhanced DV playback, and performance improvements for iMovie, iDVD and Final Cut Pro. It is available via the Mac OS X Software Update.

Apple says that QuickTime 6 has already had over 175 million downloads in less than 18 months since its release. QuickTime 6.5 delivers extensive support for the 3GPP and 3GPP2 standards, including Advanced Audio Coding (AAC), Adaptive Multi-Rate (AMR) and Qualcomm Code Excited Linear Predictive (QCELP) audio codecs, MPEG-4 and H.263 video codecs, 3G Timed Text, native .3gp and .3g2 file formats as well as support for Movie Fragments, which provide mobile operators and content providers with the advantages of real-time streaming within their existing web infrastructure.

"QuickTime 6, with MPEG video and AAC audio, is by far the most popular version of QuickTime ever distributed, with over 175 million copies downloaded and counting," said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. "The new QuickTime 6.5 adds enhanced support for 3GPP and 3GPP2 mobile networks bringing state-of-the-art audio and video content to the latest wireless services."

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yeah but

Can I finally play AVIs like I could in OS9 for the most part? There are so many windows codecs that Quicktime doesn't work with. After nearly 3 years of OSX, it's time they dealt with Mac users being left out of a lot of content.

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But...

You can install other codecs yourself

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Ugh REBOOTS

These reboots are killing my uptime!

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Re: AVIs

The only codecs that OS9 supported that aren't available in OSX are Indeo 3.2, 4, and 5. They're rarely used codecs these days (I've only seen a handful of videos that use them in the past several years), they were never that good to begin with (5 was ok), and I don't even know who has the licences to them--they were owned by Intel, but I think Intel sold them a while back.

You can, by the way, play them in Classic still.

Cool to see more QT updates (hopefully this speeds up iMovie 3 a bit).

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Apple Apple Apple

First a battery update, then 10.3.2, then iTunes 4.2 now QT 6.5. You think they could of released them all in one shot.

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RE: AVIs

If you want to play AVI files, consider a player like VLC...it has much better support for the wide variety of "useless" abundant AVI codecs

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Moo

Moo

iTunes 4.2?

Moo

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re: .avi's

face it, you just want better .avi support to watch the downloaded p*** you get from acquisition and limewire. it's okay. i understand. that's what i want, too. ;-)

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Re: Apple Apple Apple

First a battery update, then 10.3.2, then iTunes 4.2 now QT 6.5. You think they could of released them all in one shot.

You forgot Java3D and JAI

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?

"These reboots are killing my uptime!"

Well, you have enough time to s**** around on MacNN...

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Christmas?

All the updates... You'd think this is Christmas. Oh, it is! ;)
But why didn't Apple save all these for MacWorld SF in a few weeks? Suggests that there's a lot more in the pipe come early Jan. :)

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Not big enough for Steve

Steve likes to wow the crowd...

Today we are announcing Battery Update 1.1... No that won't do at all.
Today we are announcing QT 6.5... No that doesn't do it.
Today we are announcing iTunes 4.2.... No that doesn't do it either.

What works... (all rumors)

Today we are announcing the 30" Apple Cinema display... compares resolutions/size with others.

Today we are announcing the 20" PowerBook... (Ok maybe that's too big)

Today we are announcing iWrite.... (What ever that may be)

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OH!

iShutup!

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QT Pro users?

Will pro users have to buy a new license?

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no

f*** head they won't

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no pro users don't have

to get a new licence.. you don't have to check msj, don't worry.

about the uptime...why do you care? I have a 12 inch d*** when erect but don't worry when it goes back down.. that is just life.

"Look at me, I have this much uptime".. so what!

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"no!"

Explitive deleted.

Someone needs to get back on the caffeinated coffee...

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Quicktime is fine for stuff like QTVR panoramas and 3D views. Other than that? I really don't see the point.

The 'free' player is dumb and unresponsive. You get a big old nag box right in front, but no full-screen maximize mode on any convenient keypress if the feature is even there. You also get a very limited selection of codecs to choose from, many of which are virtually useless low-quality audio compression codecs or crippled versions of 'pro' codecs like Sorenson. Where's Xvid and mp3?

AVI is a much more versatile wrapper format and tons of 3rd party tools can mux and demux pretty much any damn codec combo you can think of. The APIs are wide open in any of the powerful video server tools like virtualdub and avisynth; you are in control of everything that happens to the stream, regardless of source. Write your own filters, plug it all in!

I like ripping my discs to the very nice Xvid codec and raw AC3. During playback I pipe out the original sound to your digital amp to my digital amp with picture as good as the original DVD but at a quarter the bitrate using one of half a dozen different mpeg4 codecs, so an entire trilogy of features fits snugly on one 4.7GB DVD. (I also happen to have a DVD player in my living room which plays DivX/Xvid DVD-ROMs!) Anyway, Quicktime don't let you do any of this stuff. Who is it for? Who uses it, other than mac loons without viable alternatives?

Whenever content floats around on the net like ripped episodes of a cartoon series or whatever, the quicktime versions always tend to be itty bitty
320x240 things with scratchy lo-fi sound, while the mpeg and avi divx equivalents of similar filesizes are vastly more enjoyable. Quicktime just feels like a stupid and irrelevant loser format. It would be entirely so if it wasn't for the fact that it can serve as an adequate wrapper for DV streams, and so can be used with FinalCut Pro, which doesn't suck.

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Ummmm, Apple does *not* have an 8% market share. They may have back in 1997 but they now have 2.9% COE (client operating environment) market share to Linux's 2.8% as per IDC. Linux is expected to overtake Apple for the number 2 spot on the desktop early in 2004. To me that means Apple should refuse, now more than ever, to release Quicktime for Linux since that would only help Linux grab and extend it's lead. The good news for Apple is that Linux is only taking market rank from it, not market share, that's coming from the MS piece of the pie. All that market share c*** aside, I still want a 17" PowerBook for x-mas!

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'j'

I hope you get your own PB 17" for X-mas.
It's awesome.

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doodle...

You may not realize this but Quicktime is the underpinning of may things on Mac OS X and for many of the main stream professional media production products (not just on the Mac). The same products that make those DVDs of yours for example.

Quicktime is a framework that allows any number of codecs to be plugged in... you are considering only one small aspect of Quicktime.

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You can make QT play AVI

..files pretty well, including XVID.

Install divxmac from www.divx.com to fix AVI video/audio sync problems. Install 3ivx from www.3ivx.com for a vastly superior codec for DIVX and it also adds support for XVID.
Then add an AC3 decoder from here:
http://www.insaneness.com/ac3.html

and you're pretty much covered to play all your p***.

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Pixlet?

Anyone having trouble with playing Pixlet movies or Matrix Ulta trailers (i.e dropped frames) using a PB 12" 1Ghz with 768MB RAM?

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doodle!

WOw i never thought there existed people who didnt know what Quicktime was all about. well let me educate you real fast. first of all, just because you only get to see little weakly ecoded clips around teh net HA SNOTHING TO DO WITH QUICKTIME.thats just how they were encoded. now if you head ove rto apples site or most of teh sites that have trailers or things of that nature, QUICKTIME KICKS a** and the quality is VERY good. and a full screen feature does exist indeed. you just eithe rhave t pay for the pro version, which unlocks EVERYTHING, or downlaod a free app that wil let you play it in full screen using the quicktime libraries. Also as far as encoding goes, there are MANY freeware apps that wil let you encode to your hearts content. FFMPEG, Mencoder, all woith great front ends and MANY poro level options for free or 15 bucks for the ffmpeg packkage. downlaod any mac divx codec and you can export and play it in quicktime. you need to get quicktime pro (which if you really had FCP you would have a quicktime pro serial number included!) and as far as a convenient keypress, you can define your own keypress in panther, or just hit command-f. u can even choose which monitor (or tv) to display it on and watch movies. if you dont wnat to pay, but want to have something VERY adequate, videolan client is your best bet, if you dont want to install command line stuff and use that. and a limited selection of codecs? WOW someone misse dthat boat. you get AT LEAST 30 different very high quality codecs for a VERY low price considering what you get. the regular quicktime can play all of the vids with teh built in codecs, or you can download 3ivx and divxmac to be pretty much complete.and each one has very good settings, filters, and a few effects. (but with imovie and mostly FCP you have WAY more). and not to mention that you have a lot of great sound exporters as well. and talking about server codecs, quicktime streaming server is BAD a**, and especially when you are streaming mpeg4. INSTANTLY STARTING clips and scrubable clips where you can pretty much scrub to ANYWHERE in the clip WHILE STREAMING. if thats weak, i would like to see what your definition of powerful is. the avi and divx stuff are missing out of the box, but it can be freely added or for a small price. its a very versatile application. you just need to get pro. but if you are not going to need all that stuff, then dont get pro. if you do, GET PRO. its that simple. when you see how much stuff is in the pro version, you will be happy with your purchase. it looks like the only "loser format" is the format in your brain cuz you know nothing about quicktime.

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In defense...

One good thing about the soaring popularity of iTunes on the Windows platform is that it's pushing up the market share of PC users with recent versions of QuickTime.

Contrary to an earlier post here, I think that QuickTime is hands-down superior to AVI in terms of power, versatility and overall framework. Perhaps the earlier post meant to refer to Windows Media, as that and AVI are two different things (MS pretty much abandoned AVI wrapper several years ago in favor if other flavors). Yeah, the QT free player is limited and the opening banner is annoying, and Apple should just forget about charging for QuickTime Pro to get more users behind it (do they really make enough $ from it to justify the annoyances and limitations?). WM certainly has more third-party support and more cool codecs, but QT Pro has plenty of decent codecs available to work with. If you want to make DVDs that only work with DivX players, cool. IMHO, I would rather shell out a few dollars for more DVD-Rs and make DVDs that work with any DVD-R compatible player years down the road. Same reason I don't use OGG for audio, even though it compresses better than either AAC or MP3.

Anyway, QT has free streaming software for multiple server platforms, decent pro development tools, Flash player built in, *open standards*, and much more to offer than 3D and VR. I'm tired of MS making everything more and more proprietary (now they're making a revolutionary technology called "Sparkle" which is 90% open SVG, but they have to make just enough of it proprietary to f*ck things up). And no, I'm not a Mac zealot...just a PC tech guy who's tired of MS's c***, and looks forward to using his Mac after work for freelance video and music production.

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updates, codecs and ...

reboots

Soo many codecs - one would think all they do in Win/Tel land is apply critical updates and add another codec tweak. I hope these codecs are useful - sounds like most will be. VLC and MPlayer are pretty cool, but just as you think you have all the codecs some moron makes a tweak.

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Whoa...

face it, you just want better .avi support to watch the downloaded p*** you get from acquisition and limewire. it's okay. i understand. that's what i want, too. ;-)

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!

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Apple offers QuickTime 6.5 with more 3GPP support

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QuickTime 6.5 debuts

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Apple Apple Apple

RE: AVIs

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Re: Apple Apple Apple

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Christmas?

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OH!

QT Pro users?

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no pro users don't have

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doodle...

You can make QT play AVI

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