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Apple vs. Linux pricing

Information Week's discusses Apple's pricing versus other competitors, noting that while Apple leads its competitors in technology, only 15% of business-technology professionals say advanced technology is their most important criterion for choosing a PC vendor; and that 83% of respondents choose cost as the number one priority: "Problem is, Linux users can get similar capabilities for even less, says Gordon Haff, an analyst at research firm Illuminata. 'The challenge Apple has is they're not just competing against Windows in the server space. They're also competing against Linux,' he says 'And I don't see Apple having a clear knock-down punch against Linux.'"




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  1. MacNN.com Reader

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    15% is important, not 83

    Apple is selling to the 15% that do appreciate user interfaces, and advanced technology. Apple would dilute their brand and give up their edge if they tried to compete for 100% of users. It costs money to develop a superior product. If Apple were to appeal to the penny pushers, they would have to remove things that give the Mac platform it's edge.

    Why can't analysts and pundits understand that?]

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    Linux Shminux

    Another FUD-dy duddy speaks!

    What can a Mac OS X installation offer over Linux?

    ¥ Real desktop applications!
    ¥ Hardware and software that actually works together, because it was DESIGNED to work!
    ¥ AND we don't need legions of IT twits on call (or on the PAYROLL) to keep 'em up and running.

    We don't need no Linux voodoo rattles and bones to make our systems work!

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    There is always an excuse

    There is always an excuse

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    I

    I love linux, but I agree with posters 1 and 2 above for the most part.

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    Linux vs OS X

    Linux for the Unix geeks, Mac OS X for the rest of us.

    Linux is poised to become more and more present in the mid term future. If developers can come up with a friendly user interface and a minimum standardization. Linux is already widely used in servers though.

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    Distros

    Is Linux primarily a free OS? With various companies charging for their more polished versions?

    Wow... FREE is popular among UNIX geeks what a revelation.

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    Linux...

    OS X has (and always has had, for that matter) the biggest, albeit most often ignored advantage over every other system out there—TCO (Total Cost of Ownership). Sure Linux is cheap/free, that is until you break it and need to pay hundreds of dollars an hour to a tech to fix it. Everyone is always focusing on the outlay and totally ignoring the long term. It's like saying "look at this great car I got for $1000, sure it only gets 1 mile to the gallon, but who cares, it was SO Cheap". No one would fail to recognize the long term cost in that situation, but when it comes to computers, everyone loses their head!

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    Um

    I would be happy to tare apart this drivel.

    "Apple is selling to the 15% that do appreciate user interfaces, and advanced technology."

    Wonderful. An excellent strategy for gaining market share. Sell to only the few individuals who are so rich they no longer care about price/value. There are ways of pushing advanced technology without overcharging people by 300%. Or maybe you buy from apple just to support them for being "first" on a technology? Good for you. Me, I would rather have something at a price I can afford.

    "Apple would dilute their brand and give up their edge if they tried to compete for 100% of users."

    Compete for 100% users? Apple isn't even competing for 5% users! Apple's strength should NOT be in it's brand, but it's price/value. Pepsi has a strong brand, but it still rots your teeth and makes you fat. The product is completely worthless... the only reason people buy it is because of the brand. Surely you believe apple should be worth more then it's brand and the strength of it's marketing?

    "It costs money to develop a superior product."

    Ah, see. That's where apple has you. Marketing is about perception. And perception has nothing to do with how much it costs to make something. PC vendors repeatedly copy apple's technology and undercut them in price. That tells me that the technology is NOT what is driving up the price. It's the BRAND. ONLY the brand. Apple assumes you're stupid enough to think they put out a quality product based solely on how it looks on the outside. And many times, they would be right.

    Now, many times I like the end product apple puts out. It IS nice that apple puts some value in the presentation and how you "feel" when using a product. But it's NOT nice when apple starts trying to push out products who's value is hyped up basically "because it's from apple so it has to be good". That's complete BS, and I'm getting sick and tired of it. (If you don't believe me, as an example, look at the apple forums on iCal. I have no problems in saying that iCal is a complete POS, and apple should be shot for even releasing it. People only use it because it's apple.)

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    Re: linux vs OS X

    Linux is poised to become more and more present in the mid term future. If developers can come up with a friendly user interface and a minimum standardization. Linux is already widely used in servers though.

    Well, that ain't going to happen. They can't even decide on a UI (Gnome, KDE, something else, stop wasting time duplicating effort and settle on one for goodness sakes!), let alone any type of standardization. The problem with Linux is that its written by Unix geeks for Unix geeks, so functionality is more important than usability.

    h***, they can't even name their apps decently. They always use strange acronyms that always start with the same freakin' letter (k or g or x).

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    Re: Um

    PC vendors repeatedly copy apple's technology and undercut them in price. That tells me that the technology is NOT what is driving up the price. It's the BRAND. ONLY the brand. Apple assumes you're stupid enough to think they put out a quality product based solely on how it looks on the outside. And many times, they would be right.

    No, Apple's problem is they actually spend the R&D money to develop technology, and then they actually price the products to try to make back the cost. When other companies copy the tech, they don't have to spend the upfront costs, so of course they can sell it cheaper. The tech itself is cheap. Its designing and engineering it that's expensive.

    [You know, if it costs $10 million to create a piece of software, you sell it at a price to try to make back the 10 million, (10 million + profit)/(# of potential users), you don't sell it for $5 because that's all the CD costs to manufacture.]

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