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MacGIMP announces GIMP for Mac OS X 10.3 Panther

updated 03:55 am EST, Thu November 20, 2003

GIMP for Panther

, a pre-release of the next major GIMP update, and all its dependencies on Mac OS X 10.3 Panther: "Preliminary builds have been running on Mac OS X for nearly two weeks now and creation of a binary packaged installer for Mac users is in progress. A release is expected to be made available by the end of November. The hope is to roll out documentation for building it for those who enjoy the acquaintance of their compiler."

Version 1.3 of the GIMP is a precursor to the 2.0 release, and represents
an advanced ("very stable") beta at this point, and has a number of major
improvements, according to the company. MacGIMP says there it does not include CMYK conversion, although there is a CMYK plugin available. A major public release of MacGIMP is expected when GIMP 2.0 for Linux ships, while a limited private beta releases will be available to current MacGIMP customers before the end of November.

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11/20, 06:54am | report spam | close Reply |
Photoshop killer?

Cool! This just might be the photoshop killer that we've all been waiting for.

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11/20, 08:22am | report spam | close Reply |
Photoshop Killer? Pfft!

GIMP will never be a Photoshop killer - professional designers don't want to use a product that has half the features of Photoshop, and requires you to stuff around in the command-line compiling. It's sad, and I wish it were different, but it's true.

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Not by a long shot

GIMP is great for a 'free' tool, but it's nowhere near Photoshop in terms of features, interface, and basic functionality. Especially interface.

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:-D

Bring out the GIMP!

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Photoshop Killer?

My a**! Nothing is going to kill Photoshop -- nothing. Why are you waiting for a Photoshop killer anyway? What's wrong with the venerable PS?

If you are too cheap or too poor to buy it, you can always get your hands on a pirate copy.

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11/20, 09:47am | report spam | close Reply |
No reason to buy

My "preliminary" builds on Panther do not rely on a third party selling me free software!

My instructions:
1. You need Apple X11 (install SDK too anyway)
1a. Install Fink.
2. Execute the command in your terminal: fink -install system-xfree86
3. execute the command in your terminal fink -install gimp
3a. answer any questions in the affirmative
4. wait
5. when done, launch X11.
6. in the X terminal window type /sw/bin/gimp
7. Use the gimp for free.

That's all. It's not hard. It doesn't cost money.

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Could someone with

a bit of knowledge explain to me why anyone would spend the time to compile a package if the binary already exists for that type of machine?

I understand that there isn't a binary package yet for this version of GiMP, however I see all the time people running MAKE whenever they could just install the package.

I just don't get it. Sorry.

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Re: Photoshop killer?

Uhm... no. The GIMP people have a lot to learn about user interface design before they can even think about taking on Photoshop. If you need an image editor but can't afford Photoshop, buy Photoshop Elements (it's only $99). If you can't afford that, then consider GIMP.

That said, if you don't care about a cumbersome interface, by all means, GIMP is for you.

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Pink Panther

What a great idea, why didn't I think of that?!

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no more packaged installs

no more packaged installers PLEASEEEEEE.

This is not Windows, let me just drag a folder in and out of my Applications folder.

That's how MacGIMP should be installable.

Until then, no thank you.

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Re: Photoshop killer?

When MacGimp was being freely distributed a week or so ago, I jumped on the opportunity to download it. I was very surprised at how similar it was to Photoshop... However, it is not a Photoshop killer, maybe a Photoshop Elements killer. Also, I didn't have to mess with the command line or compile it, MacGimp uses Apple's package installer, and on X11 I created a link to launch it in the Applications menu.. Works great.

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MacGIMP Problems

As I am sure everyone who uses Photoshop for a living will do in response to the "Gimp as Photoshop killer" comment, HAHAHAHA*gasp*HAHAHA...LOL. OK, that out of the way here is a problem:
If you install MacGIMP you cannot install/use Fink. This is according to the Fink folks. That is a biggie to me.
Another problem...
If you installed MacGIMP and now need to remove it (a la me) I ask you this... how? Seriously. How do you remove MacGIMP? There are no directions for this, no FAQ, no forum that conclusively answers this, no advice from the packager... nothing. Now, do you know that MacGIMP installs several hundred files in a large number of folders (most in opt but not all). It also helps itself to some other files you already have by changing their ownership to itself. So if you search for the name "gimp" you won't catch many of the files installed and will catch some that it did not install (gimp-print for one), if you search by owner you will find some files that were not installed by Gimp but were co-opted. The issue is a thorny one.
The only thing I could think to do was use a series of unix commands (combining "find", "sort", "xargs" and "mv") to move the offending files to a neutral location so I could see if my system would still work w/o them. I then nuked MacGIMP and installed Fink. :)

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Yay to installers!

I hate programs that insist in installing 600MB of c*** I don't need. What a pain it is to drag-install a folder and have to go back and dig through and trash all the sample files, templates, etc. I do not want to deal with. Much easier to uncheck a buncha boxes in an installer and hit Go. Even Microsoft Office has a custom installer...and I use it!!!

The point: Give us the OPTION of a one-step custom-install.

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Great free product

For the price its great, but yea it can't replace photoshop. Not in its current form anyway. Maybe later on down the line but I doubt it.

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Installs and builds

1. They way this software package is put together, it won't work as just an app. It uses several libraries that you wouldn't want in the package, since other apps could use them also. Of course, MacGimp gives you all that for $30 or so.

2. I've been trying to build the Gimp myself. Why? It beats paying $30 for something I can do myself. And I know what gets installed. And I know where it gets installed. That said, it's been an utter pain and I still haven't gotten it right yet.

3. libjpeg, libtiff, libpng, Gtk+, Glib, Gtk-perl, and who knows what else are needed to get this to build. I got to the point where it wants gimp-print and called it an evening. Of course, I had to edit numerous Makefiles and move some build objects around and.....oh, everyone here's confused now anyway.

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No justification

"If you are too cheap or too poor to buy it, you can always get your hands on a pirate copy."

NO.

If you are too cheap or too poor to buy Photoshop, then use something else.

If you want something for free, do not steal commercial software. Instead, use available free software like GIMP.

There is absolutely no legitimate justification for pirating Photoshop.

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GIVE ME AN UNINSTALLER!

I unwittingly installed MacGimp without realizing all that was involved in getting it to work, and worse, without realizing that it is IMPOSSIBLE to uninstall without the secret knowledge that only the developers have and are willing to impart to their victims. (I've asked time and again at MacGIMP forums, and I've yet to get a useful, understandable answer.)

I will NEVER use MacGIMP out of principle, and out of a sense of security and the need for customer support, I will probably never try to use open-source software again. Users should be very wary of installing anything on their computers for which no single person or company is accountable to provide support and documentation.

Please please, MacGIMP, make an uninstaller or at least provide a list of files that must be removed to bring computers back to a pre-MacGIMP-install state.

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Graphic Coverter

For simple image editing and resizing for web pages and the like use Graphic Converter. It's batch processing is awesome and it's only $35 and best of all it's a mac program and installable with a drag and drop. No installer. I've been using it for 4 years now as a web developer. I've never needed photoshop for what I do. Which is web only. Photoshop is great for print. But for people like photoshop is a waste of money.

I cannot believe no one else talked about this??!?!

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re:GIVE ME AN UNINSTALLER

whoa Darl Mc Bride!! I didn't know you were posting on MacNN

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geez

Why all the gimp bashing? The gimp is pretty decent if you can't afford photoshop. It's not a photoshop killer. But it's pretty good, and it's free.

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If everyone stopped

pirating Photoshop, maybe they'll be able to drop the price on Photoshop.

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"explain to me why anyone would spend the time to compile a package if the binary already exists for that type of machine?"

A) You have more control over the install
B) You don't want to pay money
C) You want the latest unstable release or you want an older release
D) You want to easily upgrade as new releases become available.

And the biggest reason for me is:

E) You want to use a system (Fink) that puts a safety layer between your unix software and your main OS X apps, so that if you have a problem, you can always nuke the unix stuff and it doesn't cause any problems to your computer.

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MacGIMP announces GIMP for Mac OS X 10.3 Panther

updated 03:55 am EST, Thu November 20, 2003

GIMP for Panther

Photoshop killer?

Photoshop Killer? Pfft!

Not by a long shot

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Photoshop Killer?

No reason to buy

Could someone with

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Pink Panther

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MacGIMP Problems

Yay to installers!

Great free product

Installs and builds

No justification

GIVE ME AN UNINSTALLER!

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